--- title: "[Recording]Johanna Rothman at Agile Israel: 9 steps to becoming more Agile" url: "https://osherove.com/blog/2005/3/27/recordingjohanna-rothman-at-agile-israel-9-steps-to-becoming.md" canonical: "https://osherove.com/blog/2005/3/27/recordingjohanna-rothman-at-agile-israel-9-steps-to-becoming.html" published: "2005-03-27T12:22:00" updated: "2005-03-27T12:22:00" tags: ["Agile Related"] author: "Roy Osherove" description: "I was quite wary of how the recording would turn out, and it really wasn't perfect. But, with some tweaking and noise removal, I bring you the recoding from the first half of the Agile Israel user group meeting last…" usage: "Licensed under CC BY 4.0 — reuse, quote and adapt with attribution (Roy Osherove, link to the original page)." license: "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/" --- # \[Recording\]Johanna Rothman at Agile Israel: 9 steps to becoming more Agile By Roy Osherove March 27, 2005 In [Agile Related](https://osherove.com/blog/category/agile-related) **Historical article** · Originally published March 27, 2005; technical details may be outdated. I was quite wary of how the recording would turn out, and it really wasn't perfect. But, with some tweaking and noise removal, I bring you the recoding from the first half of the [Agile Israel](http://agileisrael.com/) user group meeting last week. Pictures to come. It'as available for download as two parts - so you can burn it onto a CD and listen on the way to work (if you're a geek like me, that is). **Johanna Rothman at Agile Israel user group** **9 Steps to becoming Agile(March 23, 2005)** Length: 1 hour 26 minutes. Language: English. **[Download](http://www.teamagile.com/mainpages/Interviews.html)** **Summary** [Johanna](http://jrothman.com/) Discusses the 9 steps each organization might want to consider as they start to move toward a more Agile development process. An interesting and funny speaker, Johanna discusses Daily builds, Automated smoke tests, Implementing by slice, Testing early and often, Timeboxing requirements work, ranking the requirements, Rolling wave planning, defining milestones based on deliverables -  not functions,and  creating cross-functional project teams. Johanna has written over 100 articles and papers and is now a columnist for Fast Company’s online career center, Software Development, Computerworld.com, and StickyMinds.com. Johanna is the author of the highly acclaimed [**Hiring the Best Knowledge Workers, Techies & Nerds**](https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0932633595/ref=nosim/rds-20), and is the coauthor of [**Corrective Action for the Software Industry**](https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN//0971323194/ref=nosim/rds-20). Johanna is also a host and session leader at the Amplifying Your Effectiveness (AYE) conference ## More in Agile Related [All posts in Agile Related](https://osherove.com/blog/category/agile-related) - Apr 3, 2005 ### [Naming standards for unit tests](https://osherove.com/blog/2005/4/3/naming-standards-for-unit-tests.html) - Mar 28, 2005 ### [\[Interview\]Kieran Mockford, MSBuild Program Manager - on MSBuild, TDD, the Microsoft build process and much more](https://osherove.com/blog/2005/3/28/interviewkieran-mockford-msbuild-program-manager-on-msbuild.html) - Mar 23, 2005 ### [NUnit in Hebrew?](https://osherove.com/blog/2005/3/23/nunit-in-hebrew.html) - Mar 23, 2005 ### [\[Audio Interview\] Charlie Poole, NUnit lead developer - on NUnit, XP, TDD and much more](https://osherove.com/blog/2005/3/23/audio-interview-charlie-poole-nunit-lead-developer-on-nunit.html) --- ## About the author **Roy Osherove**: Senior Solutions Architect at AWS working on AI for production and AI-driven development; author of The Art of Unit Testing and Elastic Leadership, with about 20 years of consulting and training on unit testing, TDD, team leadership and continuous delivery. ### Sites - [RobotPaper](https://robotpaper.ai/): This blog: AI patterns and anti-patterns, AI and coding agents, and engineering leadership. - [osherove.com](https://osherove.com): Roy's personal site. 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