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title: "Agile Israel May meeting summary"
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description: "We had a fun time at the last Agile Israel meeting. (FYI - slides are already online for download , audio coming soon). Two things bothered me a bit: We had the stroke of luck to be side by side with conference about…"
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# Agile Israel May meeting summary

By Roy Osherove June 2, 2005 In [Agile Related](https://osherove.com/blog/category/agile-related)

**Historical article** · Originally published June 2, 2005; technical details may be outdated.

We had a fun time at the last [Agile Israel](http://agileisrael.com/) meeting. (FYI - [slides are already online for download](http://www.agileisrael.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=58&mid=362), audio coming soon).

Two things bothered me a bit:

- We had the stroke of luck to be side by side with conference about "delivering the message" : for people in the room next to you this means "loud and vocal presentation near by, making the current presentation stop every once in a while when the people on the other side applaud the presenter". It wasn't **that** bad, but we did have to stop a couple of times.

- The turnout wasn't as great as I expected. about 15-20 people. I guess that's OK for a user group's 3rd meeting ever, but since we've already had meetings with 40 and 50 people I was starting to wonder what's up? Perhaps it was the topics. Why you tell me why you didn't show up :)

Overall the sessions went pretty well. My session was about testing legacy code and the various problems this presents. I presented the case for legacy code testing and some legacy refactoring patterns from the most excellent book "[Working effectively with legacy code](https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0131177052/iserializable-20)".

Gadi's session was about MSF Agile and was very very interesting. [Gadi](http://www.idag.co.il/) is a great presenter with a lot of knowledge.

Both sessions were recorded and will be hosted on the site when the audio work is done as mp3.

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- May 29, 2005

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