--- title: "[Audio Interview] Randy Miller on MSF Agile and software modeling techniques" url: "https://osherove.com/blog/2005/7/28/audio-interview-randy-miller-on-msf-agile-and-software-model.md" canonical: "https://osherove.com/blog/2005/7/28/audio-interview-randy-miller-on-msf-agile-and-software-model.html" published: "2005-07-28T19:40:00" updated: "2005-07-28T19:40:00" tags: ["Agile Related", "Interview"] author: "Roy Osherove" description: "I chatted with Randy Miller , the guy who practically wrote MSF, for a very interesting half hour (due to technical difficulties we had to stop early). The interview revolves around MSF- the Microsoft Solution Framework…" usage: "Licensed under CC BY 4.0 — reuse, quote and adapt with attribution (Roy Osherove, link to the original page)." license: "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/" --- # \[Audio Interview\] Randy Miller on MSF Agile and software modeling techniques By Roy Osherove July 28, 2005 In [Agile Related](https://osherove.com/blog/category/agile-related), [Interview](https://osherove.com/blog/category/interview) **Historical article** · Originally published July 28, 2005; technical details may be outdated. I chatted with [Randy Miller](http://blogs.msdn.com/randymiller), the guy who practically _wrote_ MSF, for a very interesting half hour (due to technical difficulties we had to stop early). The interview revolves around MSF-  the Microsoft Solution Framework for creating software processes, its origins, its main goals and benefits and how it fits in with Microsoft Team System. We also talk a little about how it compares to other processes such as the Rational Unified Process. The conversation also turns into the fascinating topic of software modeling today and the use of "[Personas](http://www.cooper.com/content/insights/newsletters/2003_08/Origin_of_Personas.asp)" to capture design requirements. more stuff: MSF vs. CMMI, empowering developers in the development process, and the future of MSF. [**Go Download**](http://www.teamagile.com/mainpages/Interviews.html) (36 minutes,MP3) _(as always, there are many other interviews on the download page which you may find interesting.)_ _Randy Miller (also known as Granville Miller) is author of Advanced Use Case Modeling and A Practical Guide to Extreme Programming.  He has spoken at many national events including OOPSLA, Web Services Edge, Software Development West, Microsoft TechEd and others.  He has also spoken for SPIN in the past (_[_http://www.rtpspin.org_](http://www.rtpspin.org/ "http")_). You can find out more about Randy's work from his blog at:_ [_http://blogs.msdn.com/randymiller_](http://blogs.msdn.com/randymiller "http")_.  You can learn more about Visual Studio 2005 Team System at:_ [_http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/teamsystem_](http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/teamsystem "http")_.  And specifically about its plans to support the Agile methodology at:_ [_http://blogs.msdn.com/team\_foundation/archive/2005/02/07/368599.aspx_](http://blogs.msdn.com/team_foundation/archive/2005/02/07/368599.aspx "http") _._ ## More in Agile Related [All posts in Agile Related](https://osherove.com/blog/category/agile-related) - Jul 29, 2005 ### [Nice article: Agile Top-Down](https://osherove.com/blog/2005/7/29/nice-article-agile-top-down.html) - Jul 28, 2005 ### [Unit test readability should not come in place of maintainability - they go hand in hand](https://osherove.com/blog/2005/7/28/unit-test-readability-should-not-come-in-place-of-maintainab.html) - Jul 27, 2005 ### [Unit Testing Best Practices and guidelines](https://osherove.com/blog/2005/7/27/unit-testing-best-practices-and-guidelines.html) - Jul 25, 2005 ### [XP Games links](https://osherove.com/blog/2005/7/25/xp-games-links.html) --- ## About the author **Roy Osherove**: Senior Solutions Architect at AWS working on AI for production and AI-driven development; author of The Art of Unit Testing and Elastic Leadership, with about 20 years of consulting and training on unit testing, TDD, team leadership and continuous delivery. ### Sites - [RobotPaper](https://robotpaper.ai/): This blog: AI patterns and anti-patterns, AI and coding agents, and engineering leadership. - [osherove.com](https://osherove.com): Roy's personal site. 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