---
title: "Announcing the Team Leadership Google Group"
url: "https://osherove.com/blog/2009/9/16/announcing-the-team-leadership-google-group.md"
canonical: "https://osherove.com/blog/2009/9/16/announcing-the-team-leadership-google-group.html"
published: "2009-09-16T11:20:24"
updated: "2009-09-16T11:20:24"
tags: ["Agile"]
author: "Roy Osherove"
description: "I believe the next wave of issues that we will need to start solving is that of software team leadership . We may all believe in the stuff that agile, tdd and the like bring to the company, but we often have problems…"
usage: "Licensed under CC BY 4.0 — reuse, quote and adapt with attribution (Roy Osherove, link to the original page)."
license: "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/"
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# Announcing the Team Leadership Google Group

By Roy Osherove September 16, 2009 In [Agile](https://osherove.com/blog/category/agile)

**Historical article** · Originally published September 16, 2009; technical details may be outdated.

I believe the next wave of issues that we will need to start solving is that of **software team leadership**.

We may all believe in the stuff that agile, tdd and the like bring to the company, but we often have problems following through on these, since we can't find a way to drive the people in our teams to "get" these things. Team leadership is the essential skill that binds together the will do be better and the ability to drive a team to be better, and to eventually truly become a self directing group of people.
I think most software leads suck at people skills, at driving their team and getting things ready to be more agile. and I think that's one of the main reasons some agile adoptions fail so badly.

But I have not found a place to get answers on leading teams at the people level, or even at the basic skill level that would target exactly this role.
I started [http://5whys.com](http://5whys.com/) for that reason, but I believe that many of us will benefit from a more open and honest dialog about managing people, the problems we deal with, and ways to solve them.

I invite you to join the group at [http://groups.google.com/group/leading-teams](http://groups.google.com/group/leading-teams)

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- Aug 31, 2009

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## About the author

**Roy Osherove**: Senior Solutions Architect at AWS working on AI for production and AI-driven development; author of The Art of Unit Testing and Elastic Leadership, with about 20 years of consulting and training on unit testing, TDD, team leadership and continuous delivery.

### Sites

- [RobotPaper](https://robotpaper.ai/): This blog: AI patterns and anti-patterns, AI and coding agents, and engineering leadership.
- [osherove.com](https://osherove.com): Roy's personal site. Author of The Art of Unit Testing and Elastic Leadership; consulting and training on unit testing, TDD, team leadership and continuous delivery, plus about 20 years of blog posts.
- [The Art of Unit Testing](https://www.artofunittesting.com): The Art of Unit Testing, 3rd Edition (Manning): readable, maintainable, trustworthy unit tests, plus TDD workshops in C#, JavaScript, Java and Kotlin.
- [5whys.com](https://www.5whys.com): Roy's writing on software team leadership: self-organizing teams, surviving chaos, learning mode and the Elastic Leadership model.
- [Pipeline Driven](https://pipelinedriven.org): Continuous delivery and DevOps practices: build patterns, pipeline-friendly testing, DevOps metrics and enterprise DevOps.
- [Elastic Leadership](https://www.elasticleadership.com): Elastic Leadership, Roy's framework for software team leaders (survival, learning and self-organizing modes).

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### License

Licensed under CC BY 4.0 — reuse, quote and adapt with attribution (Roy Osherove, link to the original page). License: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/